aftermarket sunroofs...f#ck them.

"CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist)" (ccpbb) 08/12/2015 at 13:21 • Filed to: The Matrix Chronicles

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After buying the matrix, we noticed that the sunroof didn’t look Toyota or GM OEM. A quick google search of Webasto (found on the handle) found out it had a stupid aftermarket sunroof. And the thing “move to closed” position is børked. And it’s getting recalled....

So I’m at a somewhat local audio installer to get it replaced under recall...and they say it needs a 125-250 dollar rail cleaning service...fuck that. I’m not screwing around with aftermarket sunroofs anymore.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 13:25

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But itll be so nice in the spring!

#teamsunroof

bob and john > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 13:26

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TIL aftermarket sunroofs are a thing....

HammerheadFistpunch > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 13:28

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Screw sunroofs generally.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 08/12/2015 at 13:28

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It's going to be so fun in the winter when I'm going to use tape to seal it up.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > bob and john 08/12/2015 at 13:29

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They're a bastard to society.

bob and john > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 13:32

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like...sun roofs in genreal, yea okay. I like them.

But what on good grren earth make you think: yea, i’m going to pay someone to cut a giant hole in the roof of my car because i was too cheap to buy the option to begin with?

TheHondaBro > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 13:33

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I don’t even use my sunroof.

Twism > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 13:33

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These are still around?!

I know it was a thing in the eighties (which is why so many cars of this era have leaky sunroofs...)

Fuck aftermarket sunroof.

MonkeePuzzle > HammerheadFistpunch 08/12/2015 at 13:36

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word! no sunroof means you can put in a sweet overhead console with switches and compartments and make you feel like a pilot!

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 13:39

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So I used to have a 2000 Chrysler Town and Country, and it had a Webasto sunroof. It was starting to get a lot of wind noise, and we never opened it (because it didn’t work) so I sealed it with duct tape.

One day, the duct tape apparently failed, then the glue holding the glass failed, spectacularly, while going about 50 on the highway. That was the first time the roof had been, uh, open in years. I was thrilled when I sheepishly called the installer about getting it fixed and they told me there was a recall.

HammerheadFistpunch > MonkeePuzzle 08/12/2015 at 13:39

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oh the wishes. I went an overhead console so bad. So many thing to put up there!

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 13:40

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That rail cleaning service is bullshit. Clean the rails yourself with a piece of cloth and then find the drain tubes. Blow them out with compressed air if you have it - or a pressure washer.

I work in the industry and aftermarket sunroofs are as good as the installer. Seriously - Webasto makes a good sunroof except for the fact that some of them have adhesive that deteriorates in the sun and causes roof panels to fly off.

Ed, for the old good times > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 13:43

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DS 5 (Citroen)

MonkeePuzzle > HammerheadFistpunch 08/12/2015 at 13:45

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so add one :D

step 1: have no sun/moon roof

step 2: buy used console from ebay

step 3: put it on your headliner

step 4: recover headliner with $15 of fabric from Joanne Fabric

pjhusa > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 13:46

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All of the look, none of the function! The bests of both worlds!

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > bob and john 08/12/2015 at 13:47

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I work for a company that owns Signature - formerly ASC - the company that made the ASC McLaren Mustang/Capri and all third-gen F-body convertibles.

There are a bunch of reasons people get sunroofs installed aftermarket - first being that it’s not offered in their trim level. Look at Honda - where the sunroof is standard on EX and higher models but not available on any others.

Cost is a major consideration, too. From an Accord Sport to an EX is a $3500 jump in price and that adds... a sunroof, turn signal camera, seat heaters, and... that’s about it. Most companies charge between $1000-1200 for an aftermarket sunroof.

Warranty: With a new car, the sunroof is only covered for your bumper-to-bumper warranty. Our roofs come with a lifetime warranty. That includes an annual inspection/service for adjustments and whatever that “rail cleaning,” they’re trying to sell is. We had a 2007 Accord LX with 225k miles come in this week and the sunroof’s control module was only allowing it to open about halfway. We replaced the module no questions asked.

HammerheadFistpunch > MonkeePuzzle 08/12/2015 at 13:47

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I’ve looked into it recently, its a lot of work and money to convert from a sunroof to not. Mainly because I couldn’t stand the thought of looking up at my own handywork everyday.

Party-vi > HammerheadFistpunch 08/12/2015 at 13:51

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Sunroofs are amazing except when they’re not.

*looks at broken E46 sunshade*

pjhusa > Party-vi 08/12/2015 at 13:53

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Or when you have none.

*sad BMW is sad because sunroofs are not standard anymore on the F30*

HammerheadFistpunch > Party-vi 08/12/2015 at 13:53

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Mine is noisy and occasionally leaky. I don’t mind the leak so much as I mind the stupid rattle on washboard roads. So SOOO annoying.

Party-vi > pjhusa 08/12/2015 at 13:56

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I don’t think sunroofs were ever standard on a 3-series. That being said, I think you appreciate the extra headroom, as my head rubs my headliner over highway bumps.

Tohru > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 13:58

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This is why I don’t like aftermarket sunroofs.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > Twism 08/12/2015 at 14:00

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Yeah, they apparently they do...and I think the 80s ones were really bad..

kanadanmajava1 > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 14:01

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I thought that Webasto made pretty good sunroofs. But as sunroofs are pretty useless I could also say “this flu of mine is pretty good”.

Here’s the Finlandia 2000 (this is the actually name for these) sunroof that all cool cars had to have in 80’s. The car is a Polish made Fiat that came with the sunroof as standard equipment.

In Europe Webasto is mostly famous for making auxiliary heaters for vehicles.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection 08/12/2015 at 14:02

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Ok...I'm probably going to do it tomorrow afternoon...am I also not supposed to operate the sunroof in the next 48 hours (found the service instructions) after recall service?

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms 08/12/2015 at 14:03

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They told me to use painters tape to prevent the glass flying out. (I would pay to see that)

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection 08/12/2015 at 14:04

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Yeah..the matrix got a sunroof in the 04 year model but this was a very early 03 model, so explains.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > HammerheadFistpunch 08/12/2015 at 14:05

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I’m just wondering if they even do structural reinforcements after they add the sunroof...

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 14:06

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That’s an odd suggestion, though I suppose it’s so that no adhesive messes up your paint. In my case, I didn’t give a fuck because the car had 185k on it and was scrapped (by Pick N Pull for nearly $1000, which was awesome) shortly thereafter. So for me, it was duct tape, which I should point out lasted months.

pjhusa > Party-vi 08/12/2015 at 14:06

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Until the E90 Facelift, they were standard (for E90 generation).

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > kanadanmajava1 08/12/2015 at 14:06

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Finlandia? I have a “Hollandia”. I guess they like Northern European countries as names...

Party-vi > pjhusa 08/12/2015 at 14:07

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That’s surprising. I had no idea they were standard on the E9xs.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 14:08

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I’m not terribly familiar with the recall service I’d let it sit for at least a day so the new adhesive can cure.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > Tohru 08/12/2015 at 14:09

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Uhhhh...drainage channel leak in a 1990s ford?

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > Ed, for the old good times 08/12/2015 at 14:09

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The middle looks like a vagina.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > Tohru 08/12/2015 at 14:10

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A factory roof with a pinched drain tube could have done the same thing...

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection 08/12/2015 at 14:11

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And cleaning the rails is pretty straightforward with cloths and solvent? Because they also talked about reprogramming it and shit...

pjhusa > Party-vi 08/12/2015 at 14:14

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They were. I never used them.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 14:18

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Resetting a Webasto Hollandia sunroof is pretty easy:

Switch on ignition, but do not start the car. With the sunroof closed, press the close button (down arrow button) and hold it for 5 seconds. Then immediately open the sunroof completely and continue to press down the open button (up arrow button) for 5 seconds.

Just a mild solvent to clean the slides is all you need.

kanadanmajava1 > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 14:18

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I would have thought that outside Finland the sunroof model named as Finlandia 2000 would have sounded like this.

Tohru > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/12/2015 at 14:18

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The tube to the left of the two orange wires under the dash is the drainage tube for the aftermarket sunroof.

lonestranger > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 08/13/2015 at 23:42

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I’m not a fan of aftermarket sunroofs either, but if I had to have one, I’d hope it to be a Webasto. They’re a reputable German company better known for auxiliary engine heaters. Here in Canada anyway, the word “Webasto” is a noun in the trucking & heavy equipment industries.